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- From: grusin@rintintin.Colorado.EDU (GRUSIN MICHAEL)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
- Subject: Re: PAR or VLAB? Help please.
- Date: 20 Jan 1996 21:19:08 GMT
- Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
- Message-ID: <4drm8c$j0l@peabody.colorado.edu>
- References: <4dps1u$4p2@jobe.shell.portal.com>
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- Keywords: PAR, VLAB, novice, cheap, help needed
-
- In article <4dps1u$4p2@jobe.shell.portal.com>,
- Addison Laurent <addison@shell.portal.com> wrote:
- >
- >I would like to start some video work, not sure yet what.
-
- Well, that's the real question. There are a couple of different
- levels to this, there's grabbing individual frames off video (there
- are slow and fast ways to do this using hardware such as the VLAB,
- Toaster, and up), there's grabbing moving video (PAR+TBCIV and up),
- and there's grabbing moving video PLUS audio (generally known as
- "non-linear editing", using systems such as the VLAB-Motion/Tocatta).
-
- If you're animating, there are also systems for saving single frames
- to digital and playing them back in real time (PAR and up).
-
- To do "everything", you might consider a full non-linear editing
- system (such as the VLAB-Motion/Tocatta), but note that they're
- expensive, have nontrivial system requirements, and don't always have
- the best output. This is still a maturing technology, but such
- systems should be commonplace and relatively cheap in a few years.
-
- I was seriously considering such a system, but when I found out that
- I'd have to basically buy an accelerated 4000 to run it, it quickly
- departed my existing (and even theoretical) budget. Instead I bought
- a used PAR+TBCIV, which not only fits in my existing computer (2000 +
- 25MHz 68030) AND my budget, but is also extremely versatile and has
- beautiful output. Basically, it can record single or multiple frames
- from either the Amiga or an external video source, can import/export
- these frames to/from Amiga software, and output these frames or moving
- video (at various speeds!), all with beautiful quality.
-
- Since I'm into animation, I generally use it for (1) recording and
- playing back "unlimited" length (ok, with my 500M drive, 5 minute
- max), high-res 3-D animations direct from my renderer (without
- trashing an expensive tape deck to do it), (2) grabbing full-motion
- video to use in rendering or special effects, (3) doing precise
- editing of short video sequences (without sound, unfortunately), and
- (4) doing other animation work (you can actually do traditional
- animation techniques ON VIDEO using this system, which was previously
- unheard of).
-
- The only thing "missing" from this system is simultaneous audio
- recording. I believe you could hack up a somewhat-non-linear editing
- system using the PAR and other hardware and software, but the people I
- talked to at DPS (makers of the PAR) said that it wasn't really
- designed for that purpose and I believe them. It can also take a bit
- of finessing to get external video into the unit as you have to
- manually set the "quality level" before recording; if the video is too
- detailed for the quality level you picked, it will abort the record
- and you must try again (I understand the VLAB-Motion is similar). But
- other than that, the software is EXTREMELY well integrated into the
- Amiga, right down to other software being able to access frames off
- the PAR drive as IFF-24 pictures, even though they are internally
- stored in a different format!
-
- I'd love a non-linear editing setup because they do "everything" PLUS
- make general video editing a breeze (if you've ever edited tape, you
- know that if you're producing one minute of footage per hour, you're
- doing pretty good. The non-linear editors blow that away, allowing
- you to almost edit in real-time). But for what I spent on the
- PAR/TBCIV, I still got an extremely versatile system that doesn't do
- everything, but what it does do it does very well.
-
- Hope this helps, and that you get other opinions on other systems.
- -Mike Grusin (grusin@rintintin.colorado.edu)
-